Save Our Scout Field
PLANNING APPLICATION RESUBMITTED AND REJECTED
"I just wanted to say a big thank you to the hundreds of people who contacted me concerning the planning application
to turn the Scout Field on Ford's Grove N21 into a car wash.
I am delighted to report that the application was refused yesterday...
but I fear they may try for a third time so I will keep you posted.
The Scout Leader has applied to have the field made an Asset of Community Value
which will make it much harder to change the use. Fingers crossed".
Councillor Ian Barnes
On 8 April 2019 a planning application to build a car wash was resubmitted on the Scout Field.
This is despite the fact that the initial application received one of the highest number of objections ever recorded.
The 5th Southgate Scouts would like the local community to submit further objections to this application
on the grounds that this is not vacant space but established community space.
PLANNING APPLICATION WITHDRAWN
The 5th Southgate Scouts and local residents would like to thank everyone who rejected this planning application
The field is retained for future generations of young people
The 5th Southgate Scout Group (formerly known as the 163rd North London) celebrated its 100 year anniversary in March 2017.
For more than sixty years the Scout Group have use the Scout Hut and Field, located at the edge of the Paulin Ground, aka Winchmore Hill Sports Club.
Unbeknown to the Scout Group a planning application has been submitted to run a hand car wash on the site, relocating from behind Coffee Break.
The application is for the construction of a concrete slab to wash two cars, a paved roundabout on the field for traffic, hardstanding for 4 cars to be parked before/after washing
A containerised office and a waste pipe to remove waste water, detergents, chemicals and oil to the street.
There are no toilets in the plans
There is no lighting in the application dispite the fact that the proposal is to operate from 8am - 7pm, seven days a week
THE CLOSING DATE FOR COMMENTS IS 22ND FEBRUARY
Read this letter of objection from Group Scout Leader Jayne Poole:
5th Southgate Scout Group,
Winchmore Hill URC,
77, Compton Road,
Save Our Scout Field
I write as the Group Scout Leader for the 5th Southgate Scout Group who meet regularly at Winchmore Hill URC in Compton Road. The group also has access to a wonderful area of open space known locally as 'The Scout Field' which forms part of the land owned by The Paulin Trust and incorporates Winchmore Hill Sports Club. We have rented this land for 60+ years..
Recently, by way of disgruntled residents of Fords Grove (where the field is situated), it has come to our attention that a person/persons unknown to us have applied to Enfield Council Planning Department to change the use of the field to a hand car wash open 7 days a week from 8am to 7pm 7 days a week. The application is somewhat flawed as it states that the area is 'vacant' and previous use as vacant, which clearly it isn't. The application states that there aren't any protected species or tress on the site, again I would have to dispute this. I know there are tree preservation orders on the site and believe that a bat population may be sited there, apart from the large numbers of wildlife that inhabit the wooded area. There is no water supply or electric on the site, no mention is made of how this would be introduced. It states it does not need to dispose of trade effluent or waste, how can that be correct. Where are the staff amenities going to be located or serviced?
I and our group and members strongly object to this change of use. This open space affords our members which range from the age of 5 years to 14 years the opportunity to play games on the site and carry out badge work and being out in the open doing this also enables us to educate them about nature and the need to protect it. They learn to make fires and cook, skills that are transferred to our weekend and week camping expeditions. We have a very dedicated team of volunteers who give up their valuable time to devote to the wellbeing of these children. Our members would be unable to use the site due to various health and safety issues and of course safeguarding issues.
The field is also used for the benefit of the local community, we allow other Scout Groups and our local cadets to use this area for parade practice etc. We have a radio ham group that also use it. We hold an annual BBQ in the summer where the children and parents get together and have food, chat and play games, this is always well attended.
The field is also used annually for our Fireworks Display which is revered by the local community. We have circa 1300 people in attendance who come together to enjoy the fireworks, hot dogs and a small glass of mulled wine. This is our only fundraiser for the group with any monies raised going back into the group for the wellbeing and valuable youth work in the ward. Without this event to support us it would undoubtedly put us in serious financial difficulty.
We just can't let this happen.
It is not known where the Sports Club stand on this application, which is positioned right in the centre of the scout field, effectively render the whole site unusable. It is believed that there is a covenant on the site which precludes it from being used for commercial rather than community purposes.
Both the 5th Southgate Scouts and residents in Fords Grove are asking people to lodge an objection. Possible grounds for objection:
The application shows it as a vacant site (which it isn't).
Poor visibility for vehicles exiting from the site, near the hump bridge with poor visibility)
Loss of community space.
The 5th Southgate Scout Group urgently ask you to object to this planning application.